tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32035951.post6261134799819995800..comments2023-03-28T06:34:44.617-07:00Comments on Waaaagh!: GreatGoblinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05506329794281995480noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32035951.post-14291953640959538902008-04-10T16:05:00.000-07:002008-04-10T16:05:00.000-07:00@robyn - yes. parents are more prone to use their ...@robyn - yes. parents are more prone to use their kids to whine about something than to actually parent them. The father of the girl who scratched herself up and accused the hispanic kids of threatening her?... the father said that the assignment was 'too adult' for his 8th grade snowflake. It's never the parent... <BR/><BR/>But the idea that this generation of kids is somehow less responsible than their parents... i dont agree. They're the same - they've learned the same 'who cares, its not my problem - let someone else clean it up' attitude from them. What I dont get is 'what can you do to prevent it...' It's easy to see this is a mess - but i dont know what sort of solution you get when you've underfunded the education system for a generation...<BR/><BR/>@simon - well, the parents of the one girl will certainly be able to sue the families of the other 8 - and will surely do so - but what good does that really do? These arent wealthy people - and what will end up happening is they'll burn piles of money on lawyers and end up with very little. Personally - i dont want to waste the money on these parents putting them in jail - i dont think it would discourage the behavior. We dont have the sort of govt support systems for taking care of kids who are poorly raised - as i said above, its easy to identify this as a problem, but i dont have a non-draconian solution.GreatGoblinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05506329794281995480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32035951.post-59347127030009287682008-04-10T14:44:00.000-07:002008-04-10T14:44:00.000-07:00Start throwing parents in jail for their fucked up...Start throwing parents in jail for their fucked up kids. Perhaps parents will start parenting again. It's so pathetic that you need a license to drive but not a license to procreate (a cliche, but so true).... You should hear the little fucker next to us screaming at his mother and giving her the finger (10 years old at most, my guess). If I were his father I'd give him something serious to think about.... Of course, nowadays, if you raise your hand to your kid you're likely to have the do-gooders crawling out of the woodwork telling you you shouldn't and that they'll report you to CPS. I tire of this world.SE Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13337599506567768107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32035951.post-52986187858957501242008-04-10T14:10:00.000-07:002008-04-10T14:10:00.000-07:00This story really rattles me. These are the kids i...This story really rattles me. These are the kids in my neighborhood. Not literally, of course, but in terms of social level, background, education, etc. I haven't read the follow up, but the bit that stuck in my craw after I read the original story was the mother of one of the lookout boys who said something along the lines of "I don't see why they [the police] want with my son. He didn't have anything to do with it."<BR/><BR/>If the girls weren't actually ON VIDEO, I'm guessing that most of their parents would be saying the same thing. I know video games and violent programming and all that is blamed for this stuff, but I feel pretty certain that a big part of it is that most parents today are completely unwilling to accept that their children could do anything wrong. So many parents are in complete denial about their kids, and they spend endless amounts of energy defending them and bitching at teachers when their kids are called out for doing something wrong. So an entire generation has grown up with the idea that they can do anything with no fear of consequences. And they know that someone is going to come in behind them and clean it up.robynczhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07491819229968081861noreply@blogger.com